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Thoughts on the Market

Matt Hornbach: Are U.S. Treasuries Like Used Cars?

Thoughts on the Market

Morgan Stanley

Strategy, Alternatives, Macro, Equities, Fixed Income, Investing, Global, Business, Markets, Economics

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🗓️ 3 August 2021

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Summary

Falling Treasury yields have investors wondering whether prices will keep rising. But some insight could be gained from the trajectory of U.S. auto prices.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Thoughts on the Market, I'm Matt Hornbach, Global Head of macro strategy

0:06.2

for Morgan Stanley. Along with my colleagues bringing you a variety of perspectives, I'll

0:10.4

be talking about global macro trends and how investors can interpret these trends for

0:14.1

rates and currency markets. It's Tuesday, August 3rd, at 8 a.m. in New York.

0:19.4

Are U.S. Treasuries like used cars? That may sound like an offbeat analogy, but let me

0:23.6

explain. Since March, U.S. Treasury yields have fallen to valuations that many believe

0:28.2

are quite rich. In this has many investors naturally wondering if prices will continue

0:32.8

to rise as concern about reduced issuance collides with concern about delayed fed tapering.

0:38.3

So back to the comparison with used cars. In both cases, strong demand and the shortage

0:42.9

of supply have lifted prices higher. Let's start with used car prices. Since last year,

0:48.2

a unique combination of the need for personal transport, a consumer flushed with stimulus

0:52.8

funds and excess savings, semi-conductor shortages in auto industries supply chain constraints

0:58.5

has ultimately meant that car prices, particularly used car prices, have risen at a pace and to

1:03.8

a price level never seen before. And yet, there has always been the inevitability that these

1:08.6

price increases won't be sustainable. As our auto-sequity analyst Adam Jonas has noted,

1:13.4

while these shortages may provide a near-term glow to the auto sector, secular challenges

1:18.4

remain. Use car prices for June showed the first price level decrease in months, suggesting

1:23.5

that we may be nearing an inflection point from the peak level in prices. The lesson here

1:28.1

is that temporary shocks to supply in demand cannot overshadow fundamental drivers forever.

1:33.1

And it's a lesson as applicable to use cars as to treasury yields. Treasury demand from

1:38.0

the Fed for a few more months, or well advertised coupon issuance cuts, can only provide a boost

1:43.3

to treasuries for so long before ultimately the economy in the Fed stands become the primary

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