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Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's twice weekly podcast on

leadership with Scott. That's me. I'm privileged to continue serving as the host for Franklin Covey and what is now the world's largest

weekly leadership podcast airing every Tuesday and Friday where each week twice a week we have the privilege of

shining our spotlight on to some of the world's most renowned best-selling authors, business titans, thought leaders, people that have survived

remarkable tragedies and others that have summoned the both vulnerability and courage and also transparency to bring their own

journeys to this podcast in the spirit of our co-founders principal dr. Stephen our Covey about being an abundant leader.

We try to be a model of that and shine our spotlight on to people that have great insight to make you a better leader,

whether it's in your organization or with your family, which is why today we have the enormous privilege of

interviewing the author of a new book releasing this week. His name is Matt Gutman. You know him as an ABC News correspondent.

He appears frequently on the evening news 2020 Good Morning America and today he's going to have a very vulnerable conversation

with us about his new book called No Time to Panic. How I curved my anxiety and conquered a lifetime of panic attacks.

Matt, welcome to On Leadership.

Hey Scott, thank you so much. It's really good to be with you.

Matt, I feel like I know you because I've been following you on Instagram for several years.

And I'm sorry that my set is upstaging your set. It happens sometimes by mile. Yeah, I mean, I'm in a newsroom.

So the other side of it is kind of busy. I don't know if you can see.

Don't flaunt it now.

But I mean, I wish I could. Anyway, so you have a box and a chair behind me, but I love the way you introduce the show.

I love the concept of abundance and gratitude. And you're just your introduction is just perfect.

I think it's perfectly set to stage for a book like mine, which we're talking about today.

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