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Matt Gaetz And The Clown Car Crash Into The Justice Department

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3.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2024

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Trump’s announcement of Matt Gaetz as his pick to head the Justice Department was met with gasps around the Capitol. Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Slate’s senior legal writer Mark Stern to, yes, gasp together, but also to dig into what this stunt Attorney General appointment means for the law and the rule of law. 

Next, Dahlia talks to Dr. Mary Anne Franks, author of Fearless Speech about the new era of censorship we are entering under the unprecedented power of Elon Musk and the oligarchs screaming “free speech” as they sue in their forum-shopped court of choice. 

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When someone tells you all I care about his power, but also happens to throw in the word free speech, why are you only listening to the part about free speech?

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Hi and welcome to Amicus. This is Slate's podcast about the law and the courts and the rule of law and the Supreme Court. I'm Dahlia Lithwick. I cover those things for Slate. This week, as we attempted to integrate the election results, Donald Trump sent a letter threatening to file suit against the New York Times and Penguin Random House for critical coverage of him, while the president-elect, at least for now, favorite sidekick, Elon Musk, introduced interesting new terms of service for his free speech public square, white supremacy, social media state, X. So on this week's show, we wanted to talk about

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what freedom of expression is already starting to look like in Trump's new and improved America,

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and we wanted to do it with Marianne Franks, whose brand new book, Fearless Speech, is beyond timely.

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But also this week, how could we forget, Donald Trump

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