Okay, you ready to start this show!

Your host to the evening is a really funny dude.

I forgot his last name, but I've seen him before and he's really funny.

Give it up for Mike. Coming to you live on tape from the penthouse of a partially completed commercial high rise in glamorous

Hollywood adjacent California from the studios of Sirius XM West

boasting an obstructed view of one of LA's leading cement factories.

This is the Tully show.

I am your host, Mike Tully.

Joining me today once again, the bassist for legendary comedy metal sensations, tame stick and death,

thigh, as well as a member of the LA Art Rock, Alt Rock Act, the Mogulies, whose most recent release is an EP entitled American

Feelings. Is that all still true, Matt de Penny?

Some of that's true, hi Tully. Some of that's true, we actually put out two new

singles since the last time I saw you

God damn you're prolific

We're trying man. We're really really trying

Singles are better than albums. They kind of always were. Yeah, it's a lot easier to...

You finish a song, just go record it and put it out. So you're not even doing B-sides?

No, at this point, I think what we're doing is as many singles as possible maybe compile those into

EPs and I don't know maybe one day do an album again. Let me ask a dumb question

what's the difference between a song and a single?

Because you can't, like anybody could say,

I've got 12 singles.

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