Matt Christman on the history of fascism & the liberal hot takes that enable Trump

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🗓️ 15 November 2018

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

bonus: Matt talks about being an "insufferable" Civil War History nerd when he was in middle school. https://www.patreon.com/posts/22742080 Related bonus: Matt Karp, who will be joining Matt Christman for our live taping Civil War History-themed Katie Halper Show (date, TBD)talks to me about why the Dems are "handcuffing themselves before the battle". Matt talks about fascism, pseudo-woke gatekeepers, how and why Chapo appeals to the audience it does, and how the Left can maybe win. He also trashes some really stupid and counterproductive liberal hot takes like "economic anxiety doesn't influence people's politics," universal and class-based programs are only good for white people etc. He posits that for fascism to be here, we'd need a more robust Left, which we don't have at the moment. We also reminisce about the live Katie Halper Show taping with Chapo Trap House, which was the first time Matt met Felix in person, and which Matt still considers "one of the best" times of his life.

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0:00.0	By the way, I want to tell, I forgot, there's a joke, I want to tell you, I thought you'd appreciate it because of your love of history.
0:10.0	So it's World War II, and the Italian Army and the German Army they're in the
0:15.8	forest and the allies are on their way and they're surrounded they have no
0:18.8	chance they're definitely going to be defeated and and killed right so the German general says to his what second in command who's okay the German general says to his second in command
0:28.8	bring me mine red jacket and the Italian general says to the German guy why do you say that he
0:36.1	goes because I don't want my men to see me bleed an Italian girl goes okay
0:40.8	Italian general says to his second in command I bring a okay Italian General says to his second in command
0:43.0	I bring me my a brown a panza
0:46.0	which I told that joke when I was like a little kid in front of a group of adults and I told it the other way because I didn't get the political
0:56.0	historical ramifications right so I told it so that the Italian guy had said always got to be the
1:01.7	Italian for the shitting themselves right yeah it's so funny when guy had said. It's always got to be the Italian. Yeah.
1:03.0	It's so funny.
1:05.0	And in Rome, they've got that gigantic war memorial next to the Coliseum and it's just like,
1:10.4	dude, come out.
1:11.4	How long has it been?
1:12.4	Like, you know, it's like dude come on how long has it been like you know it's been about 2,000 years Hello, hello and welcome to Kitty Helper Show. I'm the host Katie Helper joined by
1:35.2	What's going on everybody? It's me gay Pacheco. All right. How you doing Mr
1:39.6	President? Feeling great. This week we talked to Matt Chrisman, we may have heard of, he's from the Chappo Traphouse
1:46.7	podcast. Talks about fascism and Italy and Germany. Yeah, Germany, and why the horseshoe theory is BS and you know what's going to happen in
1:55.3	20 he's a real history nerd he's a he's a renaissance man and he has a girth
2:01.9	girthy knowledge girthy knowledge.
2:03.3	Girthy knowledge of history.
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