Matt Barnes Warns About Rich Paul’s Podcast
All The Smoke
The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts
4.7 • 7.6K Ratings
🗓️ 21 January 2026
⏱️ 14 minutes
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Summary
NBA super-agent Rich Paul is stepping into a new lane, and it’s turning heads across the league.
Matt Barnes reacts to Rich Paul’s recent "Game Over" podcast comments and explains why publicly discussing player movement, trades, and locker-room dynamics can have serious ripple effects inside NBA organizations, ESPECIALLY when stars like LeBron James and the Lakers are involved.
Plus, Matt reacts to the Jimmy Butler injury and its consequences for the Golden State Warriors. I
s this transparency fans want... or is Rich Paul playing with fire in a profession built on trust and relationships?
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.3 | Rich Paul ruffled some feathers last week on his podcast. |
| 0:08.0 | Let's take a listen. |
| 0:09.2 | The Lakers have options. |
| 0:10.9 | If I was the Lakers, I would probably be targeting the Memphis Grizzlies as a trade partner for Jaron Jackson. |
| 0:22.4 | Yeah. |
| 0:23.1 | For whom? |
| 0:24.6 | Well, that's the thing, because you got to figure out the package. |
| 0:28.9 | But I think if you're building around Luca going forward, which they are, you need a guy like that. |
| 0:33.5 | You need that anchor. |
| 0:35.3 | And Jaron doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild. |
| 0:38.6 | They just put John Morant on the market. |
| 0:41.4 | If you're able to trade out expirings and give up the last first round pick you got, |
| 0:48.1 | that could be one scenario, right? |
| 0:51.4 | Or you can say, let me withhold that. But this comes with a, |
| 0:57.5 | Austin Reeves. This comes with a very unemotional attachment because Austin is beloved, |
| 1:03.2 | which he should be. But he's about to get hate. He's an underdog. And here's the thing. |
| 1:09.0 | If you really, if there's a world where you can do what's best for your team and do what's best for Austin. |
| 1:14.8 | Because Austin deserves to get paid right now. |
| 1:17.7 | This is very interesting because I like Rich. |
| 1:21.6 | I like his come up. |
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