Hey, mixed table listeners. You can find us every Sunday on Apple podcasts. It's

Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen at free on Amazon music. All right. So

once rival now best pal Matt Barnes on the program again. What's going on,

fella? I'm good man. How much so? You're now here with with a rival show of ours.

Trouble. Look out. Back to back enemy. Yeah, talk about it. I mean, you were kind of

talking about it last time that this was in the works. It's crazy. No, it actually

had before we hadn't had a home. It was just an idea before. It's a comfortable

circle now. So myself and Steven Jackson, all the smoke launching very soon with

showtime. So we're excited about that. What is going to be different about this

than traditional basketball podcast? Really? Just has two players on it, not me and

just really just that you know, a no-host bar, rot, uncut, look at sports in

general. And they're not only sports, but just life in general. You know what I mean?

I think culture, social justice, everything that you know, when people say, you

know, shut up and dribble, you know, everything outside of that rhythm. You know, I mean, we

want to be, you know, we're former athletes now. So we have a unique take on, you know,

shit that happens. Yeah, you're running around calling him a former athlete. Yeah, he's a,

I think he's your teller from the big three. I think he's just a rapper slash podcast

else now. You know, I mean, so he still has a few titles. But like I said, just excited,

you know, he and I came up with an idea one time when we're at my place in the bay,

you know, we were medicated. And I'm just like, you know, we're having some good feedback.

You know, we're both doing some Fox and ESPN stuff and everyone, you know, we love you guys.

And I'm just like, let's do this show. And last time I was here, you know, it was,

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