Hi. Hi and welcome to the working songwriter the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest,

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration,

on their process, on the general ups and downs

of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

remembering the Halcyon days

when South by Southwest was an edgy indie music festival,

or else a scrappy upstart,

remembering the days before Reddit became a hub of middle-aged dads

comparing the durability of their dewalt products.

This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing Hey everybody it's the third Friday of August 2024 and I thank you for being here

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