Hello, I've just nipped in before your BBC podcast starts to tell you all about

You're Dead to Me. We're the comedy podcast that takes history seriously, also from the BBC

and presented by me, Greg Jenner. I should have told you that at the beginning, sorry.

Anyway, like many other BBC podcasts, such as Desert Island Discs, Evil Genius, or In Our Time,

your Dead to Me is available first on BBC Sounds, a whole month earlier than anywhere

else in fact. So if you can't wait another day to hear the very latest in history and loads

of other good stuff, then listen first on BBC Sounds. What motivates someone to dedicate years of

their life to learning one skill? Ham was not just a food. It was an essential part of our daily life.

In this episode of the food chain from the BBC World Service with me, Ruth Alexander,

we're finding out. A sushi chef, two butchers and a ham carver tell us what makes their

specialist work so appealing.

You are connected with the product, you see the different parts of, you smell,

and you are focused on slice and to make beautiful presentations.

And it's like giving something of the culture.

We'll hear what it takes to master their craft.

The exacting standards they must meet.

My grandfather is coming as well and tells me,

no, that doesn't work like this.

You have to change.

The pain of getting it wrong.

You can see the scar from my hand.

Yeah, that was a big one.

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