Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist,

Joel Waldman. And we are live, just like that.

Welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor,

the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime.

And I'm in Chicago as you know, and because of that, we've got some technical issues the COEs with the kids at

the water park and whenever that happens disaster strikes and it happened just now we

lost all our elements so I was putting them

back in I think we are good to go I'm seeing the chat slowly fill up here and

while we wait for everything to populate I'm going to introduce this

amazing show that you're in for tonight. Of course, it has now been, I think, 72 hours,

if not more, since Saturday evenings attempted assassination

on Donald J. Trump, the former president of the United States of America and the

presumptive Republican nominee. We're getting some news in just a few moments ago that I'm going to walk us through.

You literally have two of the best minds in the world

when it comes to profiling.

We're going to talk about the profile of this particular assassin and I'm sure Anne and

Greg are going to also speak about some assassins from years past and how they're

similar or dissimilar.

So without further ado, let me introduce the guest.

She is the living legend, Dr. Ann Burgess.

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