A lot of manipulators and narcissists do is they pretend to be interested in you, but there's something kind of dead in their eyes.

When you're excited, your eyes dilate.

When you're really excited about somebody and you smile, your whole face lights up your cheeks go up.

But a fake smile is...

When I entered the work world, I was very naive. I thought like you that everyone was going to work very hard and try and get the right results.

Lo and behold, it's all about politicking. So from very early on, I was aware that people wear masks.

In an ideal world, wouldn't it be better to figure out a job where you didn't have to do that?

You show me that ideal world and I'll move to it. I mean it's not the world we live in.

Mostly I'm just working on my new book. I'm thinking it's going to be my major work that is summarizing a lot of how I feel about life in general.

We are animals after all and we have animal roots and we have a connection.

We're obsessed since childhood with animals.

You have your lamb there. I have my cats, you know, and so entering that

consciousness I have a chapter on childhood about accessing. I say childhood was a lot of the pain that we feel as we get older is that we

experienced something different when we were children. We experienced something more open. Our minds were more open.

Life was more intense. and as we get older we miss that and it

causes us problems and I have a chapter about how to reenter your childhood not just by becoming immature, but creating that kind of mind and spirit and

consciousness that you had as a child. I have a chapter on paganism, which I discussed with your father,

had a very interesting discussion about that,

about the pagan consciousness,

because I've studied a lot of ancient cultures

and how interesting our ancestors how they thought about the universe.

I don't know if that's giving you an idea. I mean I can go through all of the chapters but that's...

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