Hello, Wine Embers. My name is Jesse Meakin with another episode of The Wine Em Podcast

where we teach you four rules to help you stop a new paycheck to paycheck, get out of

debt and save more money. Sometimes some of you start up your budget, you're maybe starting

for the first time, you're looking at it with fresh eyes for some reason, and you see

that grocery line item and you just think, I should be doing better. Why is this so high?

You're just thinking, I want to save money. Jesse always says, you know, you can break the

paycheck to paycheck cycle, get out of debt and save more money. Where is the money to

be saved? And a lot of you immediately put the grocery category on the chopping block.

Well, today I am very happy to have with me, Erin. She is, I'd say, she basically

are Wine Em master teacher. She has been working at Wine Em almost as long as I have. And

she is an expert on, well, honestly, it's the behavioral side of this whole thing we

call budgeting. And Erin runs, has occasionally run some workshops around groceries and saving

money. All of our teachers do. She's good at it. She, she's a go getter on it. But she

also has a really nice, healthy, measured perspective around you and this elusive grocery

budget that you would like to achieve. So I have a nice conversation with Erin where

we talk about all things grocery spending, how to save more or maybe, maybe just how to

be content with what is spent. I hope you enjoy the conversation with Erin.

All right, Erin, welcome to the Wine Em podcast again, right?

Yes, thanks for having me back. I must have done okay the first time.

Apparently, I mean, the powers that be that are not me, they were like, that one needs

to be on again. So yeah, were you? Now, we're pawns in this game and we go where we're

pushed. You're here to talk about specifically, taming the beast that is grocery spending

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