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Chameleon

Master Manipulator and Commander: Trust Your Gut

Chameleon

Audiochuck | Campside Media

True Crime, Tv & Film, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.58.8K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

She thought she'd met the real deal: a decorated Navy officer, stationed at the Pentagon, opening hospitals in war zones. But what begins as a whirlwind romance slowly unravels into a portrait of compulsive deception. In the aftermath, this seasoned journalist is determined to get to the bottom of not just how and why her partner lied, but why she believed him.

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0:00.0

Camp site media.

0:05.0

Hello?

0:06.0

What is this?

0:07.0

What do you want me to say?

0:08.0

Oh, it's just a

0:10.0

Camelian.

0:11.0

Camelian Weekly.

0:12.0

Oh.

0:13.0

Oh, the beginning.

0:16.0

So this is going back a long time ago already.

0:19.0

This is going back to 2000 and I want to say eight, maybe right around the time you moved

0:23.6

to Brooklyn.

0:25.7

You're hearing a conversation I had recently with Abby Ellen.

0:30.0

I am a writer and journalist and podcast person, and I was duped.

0:39.1

Abby's told the story you're about to hear before.

0:41.5

It kills at dinner parties.

0:43.7

And became the spine of a book she wrote that was published in 2019.

0:47.8

The most interesting book on the subject that's out there, it's called Dupeded, double lives, false identities, and the con man

0:54.9

I almost married. And it was all about this wacko who turned out to be a pathological liar and

1:01.5

went to jail. It's classic chameleon, a con, a double life, and a person left trying to make sense of it

1:08.9

all. And this one feels particularly familiar.

1:13.0

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