Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast where each weekday we bring you a meditation inspired

by the ancient Stoics, a short passage of ancient wisdom designed to help you find strength

and insight here in everyday life.

And on Wednesdays, we talk to some of our fellow students of ancient philosophy, well-known

and obscure, fascinating and powerful.

With them, we discuss the strategies and habits that have helped them become who they are

and also to find peace and wisdom in their actual lives.

But first, we've got a quick message from one of our sponsors.

Hey, it's Ryan Holiday.

Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast.

I try to have this show be a mix of academics, of experts, of doers, of athletes, people

I know, people whose work I admire.

I always try to bring you someone who I think has a unique perspective.

And my guest today, Massimo Kigleyuchi is someone I've known for quite some time.

I've had dinner in his house.

He invited us all to a little pre Stoic Con party.

I guess this would have been in 2016.

He was the host of Stoic Con in New York City, which is a conference every year about Stoicism.

You may be familiar with Massimo's work.

He wrote a very viral piece called How to Be a Stoic in the New York Times several years

ago.

He wrote a great book by the same title called How to Be a Stoic, used an ancient philosophy

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