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Welcome to Navaralive. I'm Michael Walker. I'm joined by Ash Sarkar. Moments before we went live,

you were telling me your Angela Raina take, so you've got 30 seconds. Oh, my Angela Raina take.

Well, my first take is that it's quite extraordinary that he had the housing minister and the

homelessness minister both have to resign because of their own housing arrangements. One is a tragedy.

Two begins to look like carelessness. But I think the central question of whether or not she deliberately

tried to fiddle the stamp duty, I think that she was derelict in her duty. And for me, the more

important point is, do you want deputy prime ministers and housing ministers to be held to higher standards when it comes to

you know being by the book and following all the rules and for me the answer is yes because you're

creating the rules for other people um you're you're literally in charge of of the stamp duty regime

um and if you find the rules too difficult for yourself to live by, then maybe

that should give you a little insight into what the legislation you create means for other people.

Yeah. Me and Aaron were sort of debating it because I was a bit more, I think she should have

resigned, but I was a bit more sympathetic, whereas Aaron was calling it slees and that it was one of the good me and Aaron debates where the comments underneath the video were pretty much 50-50 split, which is exactly how I like to see that.

I feel like that makes it seem like we're doing something right.

We will be talking about Angela Rainer's potential replacements later on in the show.

Also, a bit more from Reform UK's conference. They are as cranky as the people around Donald Trump, I think. That's what this weekend has proved to me. If you'd like to support our work, you can sign up at Navaramedia.com forward slash support as ever.

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Straight into our first story.

Around 1.5,000 people peacefully broke Britain's anti-terror law in Parliament Square on Saturday.

As Big Ben struck 1 o'clock above Parliament, a vast crowd gathered in front of it on Parliament Square to write their illegal signs, armed only with the message, I oppose genocide, I support Palestine action, the protesters peacefully sat on the grass, or under the statues the state has erected to other figures it previously called terrorists,

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