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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Masha Lipman Talks to David Remnick About a Coup in the U.S.S.R.

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Obama, Washington, Politics, President, Barack, Lizza, Wnyc, News, Wickenden

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2016

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

In the late summer of 1991, when hard-line members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union detained Mikhail Gorbachev and sent tanks into the center of Moscow, it seemed that an era of economic and political reforms in Russia might come to an end. Instead, the coup collapsed in three days and the U.S.S.R. dissolved by December. David Remnick, who covered Russia for the Washington Post, remembers the coup as utter chaos—the conspirators were disorganized, ineffective, and often drunk. Twenty-five years later, he speaks with his translator and colleague at the time, Masha Lipman, about life during those turbulent days and the consequences of the coup, which paved the way for Vladimir Putin.

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I'm Dorothy Wickenden. On today's Politics and More podcast, David Remnick talks to New York contributor Masha Lipman.

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In 1991, both covered an attempted coup in the Soviet Union that threw the already chaotic country into disarray.

1:19.6

Mingling with the rush hour traffic, Red Army armored personnel carriers on the streets of Moscow this morning, heading to the Kremlin. They first moved in at 4 a.m., the first sign of the coup d'etat that removed Mikhail Gorbachev from power.

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With tanks in red square.

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25 summers ago in August of 1991, I had been a foreign correspondent in Moscow for nearly four years for the Washington Post.

1:37.9

Mikhail Gorbachev as the head of the Soviet Union had gone about dismantling the old communist ideology and state control over everything

1:46.3

from the economy to poetry. And the old guard was increasingly furious. There had been rumors of a coup

1:53.6

for months, and finally, on August 19th, it happened. Tanks in Moscow, Gorbachev under house arrest, and without exaggeration,

2:03.7

the fate of the world as we'd known it for decades hung in the balance.

2:07.0

President Bush calls the coup a disturbing development, which could have serious consequences

2:13.8

on relations with the Soviet Union. Experts say the stage is now set for civil war.

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But when it was all said and done, the coup failed, almost comically, colossally, more Marx

2:25.9

brothers than Dostoevsky. It was over in just three days, and that was the last gasp of old

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