Masha Gessen on Trump and Russia, and a Former Border Agent on the U.S.-Mexico Border

The New Yorker Radio Hour

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Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

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🗓️ 23 February 2018

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Masha Gessen was born in the Soviet Union and has written extensively about Russian politics. She talks with David Remnick about the similarities between Putin’s Russia and Trump’s America. The New Yorker’s Sarah Stillman talks with a former Border Patrol officer, whose years on the job left him emotionally and physically depleted. And in a Shouts and Murmurs piece by Seth Reiss, the comedian Bill Hader plays a disgruntled server who’s got some strong feelings about the house-made ketchup.

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0:00.0	I basically just think it would be interesting to look at the emergence of a criminal economy.
0:09.0	And also, I'm always amazed that there aren't more profiles of her out there.
0:13.0	This really subversive, strange thing, in rap especially, and see what their lives are like on both sides of the border.
0:19.0	From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is the New Yorker Radio Hour,
0:24.0	a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.
0:32.5	Hi, I'm Craig. I'll be taking care of you tonight.
0:36.9	The specials are on the board. I would highly
0:38.9	recommend the veal shank. Also, we're sort of known for our burger. It's a half pound of grass-fed
0:45.0	beef served with greer cheese and our signature house-made ketchup. That's right. Our ketchup is made
0:52.8	in-house with freshly diced tomatoes, a pinch of sugar, a touch of paprika, and it's disgusting. It's truly gross. Nobody likes it. But it's 100% fresh, and it 100% sucks.
1:07.6	Our ketchup is kind of an homage to an American classic, a foul, grotesque homage.
1:12.5	It's like a...
1:13.9	It's the 2011 remake of Footloose of ketchupes.
1:18.9	Bumpy.
1:19.9	Bumpy is a word I would use to describe our ketchup.
1:23.5	Also fucked up.
1:25.0	That's another way I would describe it.
1:27.5	Now, I noticed when I first mentioned that we make our own ketchup, you looked excited.
1:32.0	You know, you probably thought, wow, what a fresh organic experience I'm about to have.
1:37.3	My entire life, I've been conditioned to enjoy a corporate version of ketchup,
1:41.6	and I have been deprived of what ketchup actually is supposed to taste like.
1:48.0	Couple of things.
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