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Your eyes on the times, you walk ready to speak up, but with so many problems, you're

exhausted trying to keep up.

This is the church politics podcast where you can get political commentary from a biblical worldview.

We're not trying to be conservative or progressive.

We're trying to be Christian in the public square.

And I'm black as heaven.

I'm made in God's image.

Nobody can change my sentence.

Amen, cut off my knees and put it into my search.

It's easy to sell your soul when you don't know

what it's worth. With you no good, Ann Camp, you're listening to the Ann Campaign's

Church Politics Podcast with Justin Gibney, aka Bishop Cooper's grandson, and the Windy City

Representative, the baddest brother above the Mason Dixon line, my play cousin, the right reverend, Christopher Butler. Chris, thankfully, we got a chance to hang out a little bit last week. It was good to see you in Chicago. We were up there for the 4th of July and got to hang out with some good friends. And you didn't get a chance to run from me this time. I got a hold of you and it made you hang out with it was a joy. I love hanging out.

You know, like being what it is, it's not always possible. But I love to do it. We made it happen.

And as always, kind of nerded out on theology and politics. It was a really good conversation

with some other really good friends. So it was good to see you. Now before we get into this

episode or the stuff that we usually talk about, I want to point something out that was just a

real disappointment of me and just see what your thoughts were. On this show, we have kind of

critiqued and criticized congressional

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