Masculinism and Feminism | Interview: Helen Lewis

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.7 • 6.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Jonah Goldberg is infamous for throwing around his feminist credentials, but today he comes face-to-face with the real deal. Helen Lewis joins the show to put an end Jonah’s performative feminism and to talk about the feminization thesis, Doug Wilson, Christopher Hitchens, right-wing women, based rituals, shibboleths, feminist rhetoric, weird Oregon cheese, protests as carnival, Handmaid’s Tale cosplay, abortion, institutional drift, male/female differences, and parenthood. Show Notes: —⁠Helen in The Atlantic “The Men Who Want Women to Be Quiet”⁠ —⁠Atlantic piece about gambling⁠ —⁠The Wilson/Hitchens book for which Jonah wrote the forward⁠ —⁠Helen’s book: Difficult Women: An Imperfect History of Feminism⁠ —⁠Triggernometry Pod - Adam Carolla Unfiltered on Immigration, Activism and Women⁠ —⁠Richard Hanania: ”The Based Ritual”⁠ —⁠Helen’s disposed European royals article⁠ —⁠Helen Andrews: “The Great Feminization”⁠ —⁠Hannah Rosin: The End of Men⁠ —⁠Helen interviews Jordan Peterson⁠ —⁠Sarah Isgur: Last Branch Standing⁠ —⁠The War Against Boys⁠ —⁠Yesteryear: A GMA Book Club Pick: A Novel⁠ Buy your tickets ⁠here⁠ to see a live taping of The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg and Sarah Isgur. How ⁠to access⁠ your members-only Remnant feed. The Remnant is a production of⁠ ⁠The Dispatch⁠⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant,⁠ audio versions⁠ of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠⁠click here⁠⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed⁠ can be found here⁠, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member⁠ ⁠by clicking here⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:24.4	Very excited.
1:25.2	Technically, Brit Week is over, but Brit Week lives forever in our hearts.
1:30.5	We have Helen Lewis here from the Atlantic, staff writer at the Atlantic, to talk to us about
1:34.8	this big new cover story she's got, the men who don't want women to vote or work or have
1:41.8	opinions. And so she's here as partly for her work and partly for her opinions
1:46.5	to tell us more about it. Helen Lewis, welcome to The Remnant. Thank you very much for having me.
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