Ola, imagine you're in Spain and you've just poured a refreshing Strya Galicia,

Cervesa. You hear the bubbles in the glass calling out.

In the Penly own unbrooding Galicia since 1906, 100% authentic. But not all Spanish

beers are what they seem, a bit like me. I'm not Carlos from Acoruna. I'm Charles from Cambridge. Estreia Galicia.

Spanish. Not Spanish. Hello and this is a show for you.

Hello and welcome to Trigonometry.

I'm Francis Foster.

I'm Constantine Kishin.

And this is a show for you if you're bored with people arguing on the internet over subjects they know nothing about.

A trigonometry, we don't pretend to be the experts.

We ask the experts.

Our fantastic guest this week is a spokesperson for the Council of ex-Muslims.

Maramamasi, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thank you, it's a pleasure to be here.

Thank you so much for coming.

And for anyone who does know, a lot of people will obviously will know who you are but for people

who don't tell us a little bit just a little bit about your backstory and how have

you come to be so passionate about the issues that you talk about that we'll get

into it? Well I'm originally from Iran and so I and I was

raised as a Muslim of course and after the Iranian revolution it became an state, even though the revolution was an Islamic.

So we left the country, so I became involved in refugee rights issues, given my own experiences of course opposition to the Islamic State

because it was just horrible you know to live under it and the results of it

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