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Fail Better with David Duchovny

Mary Trump Knows We’re At a Crossroads

Fail Better with David Duchovny

Grace Cohen-Chen

Society & Culture

4.6534 Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Mary Trump, niece of former president Donald Trump, has long lived in the shadow of her family’s name. And as she writes in her new memoir, Who Could Ever Love You, the darkness of that shadow affected generations of Trump children long before it took hold of the world. We talk about her grandfather, Fred Trump, the business-minded, manipulative patriarch who molded his son Donald in his own sociopathic image. It’s a vivid family portrait, explaining so much about the systems and ideologies that created a man so reluctant to fail. Follow me on Instagram at @davidduchovny. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. And if you want to continue the conversation with other listeners, join the My Lemonada community at https://lemonadamedia.com/mylemonada/ For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's morning in New York.

0:02.8

Oh, God.

0:06.2

Hey, everybody.

0:07.3

I'm Mandy Patinkin.

0:08.7

And I'm Catherine Grady.

0:09.8

And we have a new podcast.

0:11.7

It's called Don't Listen to Us.

0:14.1

Many of you've asked for our advice.

0:16.1

Tell me, what is wrong with you people?

0:19.2

Don't listen to us.

0:20.3

Our Take It or Leave a Advice show every Wednesday out now, a Lemonada Media Original.

0:30.0

My mother was born in Queens.

0:32.1

I grew up thinking my mother was Scottish.

0:34.5

She told me she was Scottish.

0:35.6

But the fact is that her parents immigrated from Scotland to the States in the 1930s. They came for the Depression, and then when

0:46.5

they didn't get enough of the Depression, that's when they went back to Scotland, where the

0:49.7

depression continued for even longer than it was in America. So I couldn't believe it to think of my mother

0:55.9

with a Queens accent, which she never had. But I think she was three or four, maybe seven when they

1:01.4

left Queens, where I believe my grandfather was a, he was working for the building that they lived in.

1:07.7

I think he was the superintendent for the building in Queens that they

1:11.6

moved into. So my mother, much like Mary Trump, born in Queens. I'm David DeKovny, and this is

1:23.6

Fail Better, a show where failure, not success, shapes who we are.

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