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I'm Allison Beard.

I'm here today with Mary Robinson, the first female president of Ireland

and a former UN Human Rights Commissioner.

She now leads the Mary Robinson Foundation Climate Justice.

President Robinson, I'd like to start by asking about the Irish presidency.

It's a position that holds very little formal authority,

yet you manage to wield a great deal of influence

while you were in office so how did you do that? Part of it was to be close to

those who were providing good examples of whatever the activity might have been,

local self-development in areas where I would go and visit and then use that as an example

and talk about it, reach out in friendship to the two communities in Northern Ireland

and use visits there or visits by representatives of those communities to the official

residents to explain the importance of reconciliation.

I wondered when I was elected president how I had fulfilled a promise I made that I would try to

represent an Ireland that cared about human rights and when the

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