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Hi Kirby. Hi, Sarah.

Welcome to Los Angeles.

Can you scream again?

I'm not going to scream again. The moment is coming gone, but Mary knows that we're very excited that she's here.

Screaming internally always, but we've been wanting to have you on forever. We're obviously huge, huge fans. I feel like when the glams find out that you're on, they're going to just be screaming as well at home. Really? Yes. That makes me so happy. Like, you were just, like, everyone's favorite makeup artist. Like where I'm always like sending Kirby

videos of you. I'm like, she's so beautiful. What the heck? Worth every penny by the way. Oh yes. Just going to throw that out there. Snap to that. Put it out there. But do you remember when you first met Mary? Like do you remember your Mary meeting? We've been in the industry for so long. I feel like, I can't even remember, but like you've just been an icon in the industry for so long.

I can't even remember, but like you've just been an icon in the industry for so long. I can't remember the first time. I remember the first time. Thank you guys. I remember the first time too. I think. Was it at Sephora? It was at an Ulta. Oh, was at Alta. I remember the day, though. I was with Chloe, Kardashian and Jen. It was for that brand. Yeah, I think it was the Kardashian beauty or Kardashian beauty.

Kardashian hair or something. Yeah. But it was with Chloe. And they had like hairsprays and tools. I remember. Yeah. Oh, my God. What year was that? Oh, God.

2015. I think it was 10 years ago. Because I have it in my phone. I have a picture of me, Mary, and Jen Atkin.

And I was so nervous to approach them that I called Jen Mary. And I said, are you Mary? And she goes, no, I'm Jen. Mary's over here. I go, no, I know you're Jen. And you both were so lovely to me. And then we got a picture together. Oh, my God. That was so, like, I feel like that was, was that pre- Instagram?

No, Instagram existed.

It did?

Definitely posted. me and then we got a picture together. Oh my God. That was so like I feel like that was was that pre- Instagram? No, Instagram existed. I definitely posted about it. I was so psyched that

had met you and Jen. Oh, okay. But different from the Instagram we know today. It was just different

because I feel like pre- Instagram, nobody knew what anybody looked like, really. You know,

I remember like looking at Vogue or something and I'd like if Pat McGrath did an article, her photo was this big. And it was always the same, this one photo of her. But that was really how we only knew what people looked like sometimes back then. But I think that you had been on the Kardashians, which I was like watching. Oh, maybe like walking around in the back or something. Reliously. And I'm pointing glam like, okay, there's Mario, there's Mary, there's Jen.

Like I knew that. which I was like watching. Oh, maybe like walking around in the back or something. Relagiously. And I'm pinpointing glam.

Like, okay, there's Mario.

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