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You're listening to Insights at the Edge.

Today, my guest is Mary O'Malley.

Mary is an author, counselor, and acknowledged leader in the field of spiritual awakening.

Through her writing and teachings, she empowers people to replace fear, hopelessness, and struggle with ease, well-being, and joy.

Which sounds true, Mary has published a new book entitled What's in the Way is the Way, a practical

guide for waking up to life. In this episode's Insights is the Way, a practical guide for waking up to life.

In this episode's Insights at the Edge, Mary and I spoke about the eight spells that keep us feeling separate from life.

We talked about life as an intelligent process that we can trust and the importance of being curious and how curiosity is the opposite

of fixing. We also talked about the three skills of awakening and how Mary has an armchair

on the moon in which she looks at the earth and from which she understands the awakening process.

Here's my very helpful and illuminating conversation with Mary O'Malley.

Mary, in your new book, there are so many things actually from your new book I want to talk about,

but I want to begin with this one idea that really struck me because I'd never heard it before

presented this way. You write about how there are eight spells that keep us feeling separate. And I thought,

what do you mean spells, eight spells?

Yeah. Well, I love the word spells because a spell is something that's laid over the top of us.

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