We're joined here by Justin Glanville reporter and host of the Marion bill in Ohio Colt case podcast Justin. Thanks for joining us today.

Of course. Thank you so much for having me.

Justin, John and I have both been listening. We're caught up and there's just there are things happening each and every week that are intriguing and keep us coming back.

But I guess before we get started in the case, just tell us a little bit about yourself. I know you're doing this podcast.

What are there types of reporting? Do you do or cases? Have you have you chased down like this one?

Well, Jamie, I'll tell you this is my first true crime podcast. I am a fan of true crime in the genre, but this is my first time doing a true crime series.

Regular job is that I work for Idea Stream public media, which is the NPR station and also the PBS station in Northeast Ohio, so the Cleveland area.

And generally what I cover is community stories. I work with different communities and people to tell their own stories.

And I really try to collaborate closely with people to tell the stories they want to tell with the idea of find it connects people more.

And I will say when I first started working on Marion bill, I was like, wow, this is a total outlier.

This is way different from what I ordinarily do, but as it turned out, it really wasn't there were some similarities with my regular work and that I collaborated really closely with the two sisters of the victims and ended up becoming a very collaborative process.

Right. And I love all the people that you're bringing into this story, but how did you go from community stories around Cleveland to diving into true crime?

Was it your personal connection to this case? Or was there something else you just wanted to try podcasting what led you here?

Yeah, well, it's a couple of things. Like I said, I am a fan of the true crime genre, especially when it's done well.

And I especially love investigative podcasts, a few that I've loved over the years up.

Bearbrook really comes to mind from New Hampshire public radio. Good one.

And so yeah, and then in this case, this was a case that my parents were connected to.

So when I was growing up, my parents would mention from time to time, this case, because they, my mom was a student at Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio, when this happened in February 1970.

And she was friends with Bill, the male victim. Bill was a graduate student in French.

And his roommate, a guy named Tom, was dating my mom's roommate. So, you know, my mom kind of knew Bill and Tom that way.

And on the night the murders happened, Tom, the roommate was staying at my mom's apartment with his girlfriend.

And my dad was also there visiting when Tom went back the next morning, which was a Saturday morning, where it really was right after noon and discovered the crime scene.

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