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Mary Beard And Rory Stewart On Power And Politics, Part One

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🗓️ 19 November 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Who gets to win power and how do they keep it – and lose it? These are the questions that Mary Beard and Rory Stewart addressed when they came to Intelligence Squared on in November 2023. Beard, Britain’s best known classicist, has won legions of fans through her enthusiasm for the ancient world and her exploration of our cultural assumptions about powerful women, as depicted in her bestseller Women & Power. In her new book Emperor of Rome, she shines her spotlight on the men who ruled the Roman Empire. Stewart has seen the workings of power up close – and he has yielded it. Over the course of a decade from 2010, he went from being a backbench MP, though several ministerial positions, to standing for prime minister – before being sacked from a Conservative Party that he had come to barely recognise. In his new memoir Politics on the Edge he reveals how he bore witness to cronyism and incompetence, which he believes laid the foundations for our current political and economic chaos.  This is Part One of a three-episode discussion.  If you'd like to enjoy all three parts now, become a supporter of Intelligence Squared to get access to all of our longer form interviews and members-only content. Just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more.  For £4.99 per month you'll receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series, wherever you get your podcasts - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events - Our member-only newsletter The Monthly Read, sent straight to your inbox ... Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series ... Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content, early access and much more ... Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and We've got history and politics, ancient and modern, discussed by two experts who've been at the forefront of both fields for many years, Mary Beard and Rory Stewart. Mary Beard is of course the beloved classicist, author and broadcaster who's professor of

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classics at Cambridge University. Her latest book is Emperor of Rome ruling the

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ancient Roman world which analyzes the excesses and wild tales that surround our understanding of the imperial

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leaders of the Roman Empire.

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And Rory Stewart may now be best known as one half of the hugely popular Arrested Politics

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Podcast. He also served as an international diplomat before becoming a conservative

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MP for a decade from 2009 to 2019, during which time he challenged Boris Johnson for a shot at leading the country and also ran for London

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mayor. He knows a thing or two about politics, much of which you can find in his recent book

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Politics on the edge. The two of them joined Intelligence Squadared live on stage at Cadogan Hall earlier this week in mid-November

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