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History of the Papacy Podcast

Marx, Lincoln, and the American Mind

History of the Papacy Podcast

History of the Papacy

History

4.4531 Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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In this episode of The History of the Papacy Podcast, Steve Guerra sits down with historian Andrew Hartman, author of Karl Marx in America, to explore how the revolutionary thinker’s ideas collided with the realities of 19th-century America.

From Marx’s reflections on slavery and labor to his unlikely connection with Abraham Lincoln, the discussion reveals how debates about freedom, democracy, and class defined the American experience. What did Marx see in the U.S. and what did Lincoln see that Marx understood? #HistoryPodcast #KarlMarx #AbrahamLincoln #AndrewHartman #CivilWar #AmericanHistory #CatholicHistory #Marxism #IntellectualHistory #PhilosophyOfHistory

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0:47.8

Welcome back to the History of the Papersie podcast, a podcast about the Popes of Rome and Christian Church.

0:55.4

Prepare yourself to step behind the ropes and leave the official tour of the story of the popes and Christianity.

1:00.0

I am your host, Steve Guerra, and I thank you for joining me on this journey.

1:19.2

For this installment of the Catholic Church in the United States from 1776 to 1861, I am very excited to be joined by Professor Andrew Hartman. You'll remember Professor Hartman as a guest on our previous

1:25.0

series on the history of the Catholic Church in Europe

1:27.8

during the tumultuous 19th century. Now he's back to discuss his new book, which he had teased

1:35.4

a little bit the last time he was on, named Karl Marx in America. We will discuss

1:40.6

Karl Marx impact on the equally tumultuous 19th century in the United States.

1:46.3

Professor Hartman was working on this book the last time he was on, and now it is out.

1:50.7

I can't wait to discuss this fascinating story.

1:54.4

Before we get started, Professor Andrew Hartman is a professor of history at Illinois State

1:59.7

University where he teaches courses on U.S. intellectual, cultural, and political history, as well as courses in the philosophy of history, historiography, and pedagogy.

2:11.2

Before we get started, Professor Hartman, why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself?

2:16.2

And what was the genesis of

2:17.9

writing a book about Karl Marx and his impact on American history? Sure. Thanks for having me,

2:25.6

Stephen. So I, in my early 20s, started reading Marx and kind of Marxism, a whole sort of host of Marxist literature,

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