Marty Baron on the future of news

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 9 August 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Vox's Sean Illing talks with former Washington Post executive editor Marty Baron about the state of journalism. They discuss Baron's post-retirement reflections on both the Post and the profession at large, what's gone wrong with the way news gets made in this country, and how deep the problems we're facing really are. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox Guest: Marty Baron (@PostBaron), former Executive Editor, Washington Post References: "Marty Baron, executive editor who oversaw dramatic Washington Post expansion, announces retirement" by Paul Farhi (Washington Post; Jan. 26) Spotlight, dir. Tom McCarthy (2015) "Has Anyone Seen the President? Michael Lewis goes to Washington in search of Trump and winds up watching the State of the Union with Steve Bannon" by Michael Lewis (Bloomberg; Feb. 9, 2018) "President Trump has made more than 20,000 false or misleading claims" by Glenn Kessler, Salvador Rizzo and Meg Kelly (Washington Post; July 13, 2020) "'You might not like it, but it's smart politics'" by Jay Rosen (PressThink; Sept. 28, 2020) "Bannon on Trump era technique: 'Flood the zone with sh*t'" (Brian Stelter on CNN's Reliable Sources; Nov. 1, 2020) "'Flood the zone with shit': How misinformation overwhelmed our democracy" by Sean Illing (Vox; Feb. 6, 2020) "Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal" by Jo Becker and Mike McIntire (New York Times; Apr. 23, 2015) Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by: Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:01.1	Is American journalism broken?
1:05.5	I'm Sean Elling and I'm your host for Vox Conversations.
1:17.4	I've been asking some variation of this question for the last four years,
1:21.1	and my answer over and over again is yes.
1:24.2	Now, let me say this part clearly.
1:27.0	There's a ton of great journalism being done right now by thousands of talented and well-intentioned reporters,
1:33.4	but I believe the Trump era has exposed some core pathologies in journalism,
1:39.0	and it's not just the commercial and the sentence driving coverage.
1:42.6	That's been a problem for a long time.
1:44.6	It's also the reality of the internet and social media,
1:48.2	and all the ways it's transformed how we consume and therefore practice politics.
1:53.4	In this episode, I talk with Marty Barron,
1:56.4	who recently retired from the Washington Post after serving as the executive editor since 2013.
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