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Martin Wolf and Yanis Varoufakis on the Future of Capitalism - Part 2

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Intelligence Squared

News, Society & Culture, Arts, News Commentary

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The episode is part two of our live event, System Error: Should We Fix Capitalism or Abandon It? Here Chief Economics Commentator at the Financial Times, Martin Wolf and Greek politician and Economist Yanis Varoufakis continue their debate on the future of capitalism. In his new book, The Crisis of Democratic Capitalism, Wolf argues that democratic capitalism remains the best system for human flourishing, while Varoufakis advocates for a post-capitalist world without banks, billionaires, or tech giants. BBC journalist and broadcaster, Ritula Shah, was our host for the night. Part one of this event came out in our last episode and is available now to all our listeners. Do take a listen to that first if you can. Part three is available exclusively to subscribers, along with a special bonus episode from our series Bright Sparks, where we’ll be hearing from both Yanis and Martin on the creative ideas that make them tick. This event originally took place at the Tabernacle in London on February 9th 2023 and was produced by Executive Producer Hannah Kaye, with editing by Executive Producer Rowan Slaney. — We’d love to hear your feedback and what you think we should talk about next, who we should have on and what our future debates should be about. Send us an email or voice note with your thoughts to podcasts@intelligencesquared.com or Tweet us at @intelligence2.  At Intelligence Squared we’ve got our own online streaming platform, Intelligence Squared+ and we’d love you to give it a go. It’s packed with more than 20 years’ worth of video debates and conversations on the world’s most important topics as well as exclusive podcast content. Tune in to live events, ask your questions or watch on-demand, totally ad-free with hours of discussion to dive into. Visit intelligencesquaredplus.com to start watching today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello, this is Jeremy Bowen, the International Editor of BBC News, and I'm here because I want to talk to you about an event I'm doing with Intelligent Squared on the 2nd of November in London.

1:11.0

And I'm going to be talking about the more than 30 years that I've spent reporting on major events in the Middle East with my great friend and colleague over many, many years, Justin Webb.

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1:45.0

Welcome to the Intelligent Squared podcast. I'm Senior Producer, Connor Boyle.

1:53.0

In today's episode, we bring you Part 2 of our live event, System Error, Should We Fix Capitalism or Abandon It?

2:00.0

Chief Economics Commentator at the Financial Times, Martin Wolfe and Greek Politician and Economist, Janis Firofakis, continue their debate on the future of capitalism.

2:09.0

Part 1 of this event came out in our last episode and is available now to all our listeners.

2:14.0

Do take a listen to that first if you can.

2:17.0

Part 3 is available exclusively to our subscribers. Along with a special bonus episode from our series Bright Sparks,

2:24.0

we'll be hearing from both Janis and Martin backstage before the event on the creative ideas that make them tick.

2:30.0

This event originally took place at the Tabernacle in London on the 9th of February 2023.

2:36.0

Our host BBC journalist and broadcaster, Ritalis Shah, continues the conversation from Part 1 with an ocean that reform and change are always possible.

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