I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekignano show.

John Field, how's this back?

How's it going, John?

I'm going well, sir.

Cool.

All right.

We're going to read this article here by Martin Van Kreveld called War and Migration.

It appears in, I think it's volume 10 of There Will Be War, which was

put together by Jerry Portnell. Jerry Pornell.

Yes, sir.

Okay.

I was going to ask you to talk as much, you know, give us an introduction into Van Crevel, then Pornell, the work, because you're the one who introduced me to, you know, to this work. So, yeah, go right, Ed.

Sure. Yeah, just real brief introduction, though, I know we're going to talk a different time about pornell but this is

volume pornell of Jerry pornell's there will be war

Jerry pornell you can look up on Wikipedia who he was he's most famous as being a science fiction writer

most of his career he was basically doing strategic forecasting and you and future studies for the Air Force and NASA and whatnot.

He was actually the guy in charge of the Human Factors Lab during the Apollo projects of the guys who assessed astronaut candidates,

whether or not they would become astronauts, which the most important thing about that is this is a guy who wrote sci-fi who literally selected

who would get to go into space and he never actually opened any of his speeches with that,

which tells me more than anything about the man.

So Jim Bang commissioned him to write a bunch of, well, originally one volume.

It was an anthology called There Will Be War,

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