From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

It's The Treatment.

I'm Elvis Mitchell.

And whenever I watch a work by Martin McDonough, a line always occurs to me that came from the film Seven Psychopass,

which he wrote and directed, which is,

Hey, Marty, when are you going to get that screenplay done?

I'm sure he's found a way to sort of get some pieces of his own life into his work.

His newest piece of work, the film is, of course, the banshees of Anna Sharon,

which he wrote and directed. First of all, Martin, thanks so much for doing this.

Thanks for having me, Elvis. The thing that really sort of hits me, I love about your work,

is how much intransigence plays a part of it. There is always one person who refuses to give ground.

True. Probably based on me.

Is it now? I wanted to know that because it's a fascinating thing.

And it seems when we first meet these people to be kind of illogical, the degree to which they are intransigent.

And the more we get to know them, the more sense it makes,

at least in terms of dramatic sense,

I'm not saying it ever becomes more logical,

but we get to understand them.

And I wanted to ask you about

so often starting with that

as the point of reference for a character.

Well, yeah, intransigence,

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