Martha de Lacey: 'You give yourself this story of why things happened'
Big Fat Negative: TTC, fertility, infertility and IVF
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🗓️ 19 May 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
The sourdough baker Martha de Lacey joins us this week: she has run the full gamut of infertility experiences, from going solo to recurrent miscarriage to secondary infertility. "It's so difficult when you give yourself this story of why things happened and the meaning behind it," she says. "Actually it's just nonsense. It's all just luck."
Emma Whitney from The Evewell also joins us to explain why some embryos survive and others don't.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello. |
| 0:02.0 | You're listening to BFN. |
| 0:07.0 | This is the podcast about Infertility, IVF and the trials of trying for a baby. |
| 0:14.0 | I'm Gabby. |
| 0:15.0 | And I'm Emma, and we're both card-carrying members of the Infidelity Club. |
| 0:29.2 | Hello. |
| 0:30.2 | Hello. |
| 0:31.5 | Happy Tuesday. |
| 0:33.9 | Oh, yes. |
| 0:37.8 | All I can think about, all I can think about at the moment is the weather. |
| 0:39.3 | I really am. |
| 0:40.3 | Yeah, it's annoying. |
| 0:42.7 | It's horrendous. |
| 0:45.0 | I really hate it. |
| 0:49.3 | I feel like when May, like April, I can deal with rain than sun and rain than sun. |
| 0:50.5 | Because that's April. |
| 0:52.1 | That's what happens in April. |
| 1:00.1 | When May rolls in and it's still like this, I'm like, but it's wrong. It's not the natural order of things. |
| 1:11.0 | Well, I kind of, April came in. April was quite nice, right? So I was like, oh, I can now do silly things like, dry my washing outside. It is the season. But now I keep getting caught out because it's not yet the season. |
| 1:14.4 | The wind is so bad. |
| 1:16.6 | That's what gets me. |
| 1:17.7 | I don't know if it's like coastal life. |
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