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The Team House

MARSOC Intel Operator in the NSA | John Hackett | Ep. 351

The Team House

dee takos

History, Documentary, Society & Culture, Government

4.7929 Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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For two decades, Jonathan Hackett managed complex intelligence operations and special activities in dozens of countries, serving with the NSA, DIA, and Special Operations Command. He concluded his military career leading the Marines' program for allied and partner engagement, and is now passionate about researching irregular wars, ancient Mediterranean history, and interrogation psychology. 
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00:00 Start 
01:09 - Jonathan's origin story.
03:16 - His start in Signals Intelligence.
9:05 - Jonathan's experiences at the NSA.
11:50 - Shifting careers to Human Intelligence.
18:30 - Recounting the Camp Bastion incident.
27:45 - Ops in Indonesia.
41:22 - Airstrikes and personal story.
58:56 - Diplomatic intelligence work.
1:06:01 - Discussing his book's critique of conflict.
1:23:47 - Details on his upcoming book about Iran.

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0:00.0

Special Operations

0:04.0

Covert Ops

0:08.2

Espionage

0:10.3

The Team House

0:12.5

With your hopes

0:14.7

Jack Murphy

0:16.2

and David Park

0:23.1

Welcome to episode 351 of the Team House.

0:27.6

I'm Jack here with Dave in studio with Jonathan Hackett.

0:31.8

He is a former Marine.

0:33.9

He is the author of The Theory of Irregular Warfare, or A Regular War, I should say.

0:39.1

And the forthcoming book, Iran's Shadow Weapons, which is coming out this summer.

0:44.0

Jonathan served in the Marines, worked in a SIGAN capacity, a human capacity, was with

0:49.6

Marsok all over the Middle East, and West Africa, Central Africa Africa, plenty of stuff to talk about here.

0:57.2

Talk about you and then we'll talk about your books and the theory behind your research.

1:02.7

So thank you for joining us and coming in studio today.

1:05.8

Yeah, thanks for having me.

1:06.6

Happy to be here.

1:07.3

Yeah.

1:08.5

So take it from the top.

1:10.7

If you tell us a little bit about, you know, what was it like for you growing up and what

1:14.6

sort of like took you towards the Marine Corps?

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