Hello and welcome to Marshall Matters with me, Winston Marshall at the Spectator Offices in London.

Today I'm joined by Rahima Matt Mutt.

Rahima is the UK Director of the Uyghur Congress.

She is the co-founder and executive director of the Stop the Uyghur Genocide Organization, as well as being a beautiful singer, activist, translator, author, writer and someone I consider to be the embodiment of Uyghur culture and one of the great spokespersons for the Uyghurs here in Europe

and in the UK.

Rahima, thank you so much for making the time to speak with me.

Thank you for that very kind introduction and thank you for having me.

Of course.

So on the 24th of May, Adrian Zenz has released what has been called the Jingjiang police files.

Now, we'll get into that, but before speaking about that,

I was wondering if you could maybe explain to listeners or watchers who don't know who the Uyghurs are.

Who are the Uyghurs?

Well, Uyghurs are the Turkic-speaking people.

We share more cultural, similar culture and the language with Turkic people.

The closest cousins are the Uzbeks.

I often say that culturally we are far more closer to Istanbul than Beijing.

So our language is Turkic, we believe in Islam,

and we have our own very distinct unique culture, music and Islamic tradition

and so on.

So it's very, we are very different from the majority Han Chinese people.

In fact, there's no Chinese ethnicity that's part of the Uyghur makeup.

It's a separate ethnicity as well as having a whole other tradition altogether.

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