Mary sex is more like a Lego set than a Tonka truck.

You know, Tonka truck, you take it out of the box, you play with it, you're good to go.

A Lego set, the fun is putting it together, but the time comes very soon when you have to tear it apart and put it back together again.

Because the sex life that served you prior to having children may not work once you do have children, may not work when you reach middle age.

And so just having that understanding, then you don't freak out when you realize, hey, we used to be so excited and fulfill each other and now it's taking a little bit of work, that's to be expected.

And that, of course, is the voice of legendary Gary Thomas, who interviewed today with Deborah Fileta.

So they have co-written a book called Mary Sex.

Yep, just released.

And it could yet just release two days ago, it couldn't be more timely for the series that we're going through on the podcast, we're talking about sex and intimacy and all the issues surrounding it.

We're going to be asking and answering, hopefully, or providing wisdom around some really hard questions in this area.

And so today is a true treat.

I couldn't imagine a better pair to interview for this month on sex and intimacy.

Definitely in the midst of greatness, I feel like.

And just an extra word of caution here, you probably saw the title of this episode and we're like, yeah, let's listen to it. However, if you have little ears that are within your shot, you may want to just make them out of your shot.

However, that needs to happen, whether you plug in your headphones or, yeah, just not listen to it in the car with little ears.

You've been warned.

So in this talk, a few things that I really love, we talked about simmering sexually, something along those lines is just extremely enlightening for me personally, I think for us as a couple.

Also, they talked about what specifically husbands and wives can do to be attentive to one another.

Yeah, I think the titles of the book were like, what gets him going? What gets our going?

Yeah, so in the chapter titles, yeah, chapter titles in the book just to put a little teaser out there for you.

So it's going to be a lot of the conversation. I'm really happy to have you here with us. We trust that it will help you. And so we'll see you on the other side.

All right, Gary Thomas and Deborah Fileta, welcome to the Fear Sparage podcast. Thank you so much for joining us. How are you guys doing today?

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