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Yes, yes. Welcome in to the Tim McCurnan Show podcast, Tim McKernan alongside Jackson Burkett, for a podcast that is brought to you by James Carlton of the Carlton State Farm Insurance Agency, online at Carlton Insurance.net, Markana of Evergreen wealth strategies online at Evergreen-Ws.com and Seth Goldkamp of Design Air Heating and

Cooling online at Design Air Service.com. Jackson, it was June of 2020.

Yep.

And a gentleman who had become a St. Louis legend in 2019 reached out to me and said,

I want to do a podcast.

And that gentleman's name was Pat Maroon.

Mm-hmm.

And I said, okay, I mean,

it's COVID. We're not doing anything. I'd be up for it. If you really want to do it,

let's do it. And I thought, okay, you know, he'll probably get back to me in a couple of weeks

with some ideas. That was at about 1 o'clock in the afternoon.

At 4 o'clock, the man had texted me with a guest that he had already booked, including

John Hamm, Lance Berkman, who he had a friendship with, and our guest today for an interview

that was recorded five years and six months ago, David Freeze.

And Pat and I did wind up doing the interviews with John Hammond, Lance Berkman.

Those still also are in the vault.

The plan was to have what was the Maroon and McCurnan podcast.

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