Market Stalling? Here's What Happening
Ken McElroy Show
Ken McElroy
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🗓️ 4 April 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Ken and Danille McElroy talk with Dave Meyer from BiggerPockets and discuss how to approach real estate; it's not just about investing, but about building a business. He challenges the idea of real estate as passive income, advocating for entrepreneurship and a strategic approach to apartment investing. This perspective is key for wealth building and achieving financial freedom.
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| 0:00.0 | Today we have Dave Meyer on from Bigger Pockets. It was awesome chatting with Dave because he's been a real estate investor for a long time. And we went back to the fundamentals of real estate. And I think if you listen to the show in its entirety, you'll understand how we're investing in this market and why we see so much opportunity in the real estate market. Welcome to the Ken McElroy show. Today we have on Dave Meyer from Bigger Pockets. Welcome. Thanks so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here. Yeah, we're excited to have you on. You know, Bigger Pockets works with a lot of small real estate investors, and that's a big portion of our audience as well. And I think you'll bring a lot of |
| 0:37.7 | insight about the economy and what's happening in investments. I hope so. Thank you. So I guess the |
| 0:43.5 | first question that is kind of on everyone's mind right now, based on everything that's happening |
| 0:48.3 | in her economy, is everyone kind of anticipated that rates were going to go down this year. And it looks right now like they're |
| 0:55.5 | pretty stagnant and maybe even, you know, the Fed Funds right might even go up. Yes. So how does that |
| 1:00.9 | adjust, you know, your thesis on buying this year? I will tell you, we don't know each other well, |
| 1:06.3 | but if you did, I'm wrong all the time. But this is actually something I think I've been right about is I've |
| 1:11.3 | not bought into the rate going down thesis a lot over the last couple of years. Not because I'm |
| 1:18.2 | particularly great at telling the future, but we just have huge amounts of global uncertainty, |
| 1:24.0 | just all over the world. And that doesn't bode well for mortgage rates coming down. |
| 1:30.1 | Bond investors, the people who really control mortgage rates, whether we like it or not, |
| 1:34.1 | they don't like uncertainty. They want a clear path on inflation. They want a clear path on |
| 1:38.4 | economic growth. And unfortunately, we just don't have that right now. And so I actually think this year is shaping up, |
| 1:46.1 | at least in the residential market, |
| 1:47.6 | pretty close to how I was expecting it to, |
| 1:50.8 | because I think we're in this period called, |
| 1:53.3 | what I call like the Great Stahl. |
| 1:54.7 | I think grates are gonna remain relatively high. |
| 1:57.7 | I think we're going to have years |
| 1:59.6 | of probably pretty slow appreciation across |
| 2:02.0 | the country. It's obviously going to be pretty different. But I don't think that means you can't |
| 2:06.3 | buy. And I know that scares a lot of people when they hear that prices are going to be flat. |
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