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On The Tape

Market’s Musical Chairs & A Conversation with Jonathan Litt

On The Tape

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4.6757 Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss with the significant news of President Biden dropping out of the race, leading to conversations about the implications for the market and potential changes in political leadership. The episode also covers recent earnings reports, particularly focusing on the tech sector's performance and future outlook. Additionally, the guys delve into the Chinese economy's challenges and the potential global repercussions. The guys also dive into cybersecurity vulnerabilities highlighted by a major tech outage at CrowdStrike and its market impact. Jonathan Litt, Founder & CIO at Land & Buildings Investment Management. The conversation spans Jonathan’s background, his transition from a sell-side analyst to founding Land & Buildings, and the evolution of activist investing in real estate. Jonathan discusses various trends in the real estate market, including the impact of office vacancies, the dynamics of senior housing, and the growing demand for data centers due to AI. He also touches on the complexities of investing in the public and private real estate markets and the challenges faced by office spaces in blue states versus red states. Further Reading Trillions in Hidden Debt Drove China’s Growth. Now It Threatens Its Future (WSJ) Exclusive: Nvidia preparing version of new flagship AI chip for Chinese market (Reuters) Subscribe to our newsletter: https://riskreversalmedia.beehiiv.com/subscribe — About the Show: On The Tape is a weekly podcast with CNBC Fast Money’s Guy Adami, Dan Nathan and Danny Moses. They’re offering takes on the biggest market-moving headlines of the week, trade ideas, in-depth analysis, tips and advice. Each episode, they are joined by prominent Wall Street participants to help viewers make smarter investment decisions. Bear market, bull market, recession, inflation or deflation… we’re here to help guide your portfolio into the green. Risk Reversal brings you years of experience from former Wall Street insiders trading stocks to experts in the commodity market. — Check out our show notes here See what adding futures can do for you at cmegroup.com/onthetape. — Shoot us an email at [email protected] with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OnTheTapePod on Twitter or @riskreversalmedia on Threads — We’re on social: Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow Danny Moses @DMoses34 on Twitter Follow Liz Thomas @LizThomasStrat on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal. Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose. Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Monday edition of the On the Tate podcast. I am Dan Nathan, joined by Guy Adami. Guy, how are you? Well, how are you? I'm doing great. You and I have a lot to cover here. Obviously, the news yesterday of Biden dropping out of the race. We're going to hit some earnings. We're going to hit a whole host of things of like maybe the Trump trade coming unwound a little bit. So a lot to talk about.

0:21.5

But after that conversation, stick around.

0:24.2

Guy had a great conversation with Jonathan Litt.

0:26.7

He is the founder and CIO of land and buildings.

0:29.9

You guys talked about commercial real estate.

0:31.8

Jonathan's been on fast money with us before.

0:34.2

I know you were excited for that conversation

0:36.0

to basically take the temperature of

0:38.1

commercial real estate here in the U.S. And there's none other better than Jonathan Litt to do that.

0:42.9

No question. He gets pretty granular. He's got his finger on the pulse. So that was pretty cool speaking

0:47.6

to him. All right. Let's talk about this. So Biden drops out of the race. You know, it's interesting.

0:51.8

I think you had been saying for the latter part of 2023 that this is something was going to happen.

0:57.5

I think you suspected it would happen in the early part of 2024.

1:01.5

My view clearly was in line with that.

1:04.2

I don't know about the timing, but I remember having a conversation on a podcast, not ours,

1:08.8

basically saying in February or mid-February that the Dems are whistling

1:12.6

past the graveyard with this ticket. Without us getting into the politics of it, there's been a lot of

1:18.6

talk. If you just pull up the Wall Street Journal or any other financial oriented Bloomberg or

1:22.8

whatever, CNBC, they're talking about the certainty that kind of existed in the market over the last

1:28.0

couple of weeks, really since that debate that Trump was going to win election in November,

1:32.4

and there were certain trades that folks were calling the Trump trade, again, looking for

1:36.7

lower taxes. When you see this, we're like Monday right near the opening. Are those coming

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