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321 0 710 let's go to uh tyrone in the bronx tyrone how you doing

yes carlone's here yes mark yeah there's one thing about you and Curtis everything Everything about everything.

That's one thing I love about to show.

There was one thing, though, that you did miss Mark,

and that is that Dr. Biden said that it's not a suicide at Steve's death.

Well, then that's it.

It's official.

It's not a suicide.

He's been about 10,000 autopsies and he said

oh oh you're talking i think you meant jill Biden oh doctor Biden yeah doctor Michael

Bodden he's a uh forensic uh he's about 10,000 uh autopsy he said absolutely no way

suicide okay yeah that's a good point doctor Michael Bodden who who's the police departments use him to do that kind of work,

and he looked at all the stuff on Epstein's body.

I don't know if he saw the body.

You saw the picture, but he said it's not, they don't match up with suicide,

the way the marks around his neck, the whole thing. He believes he was murdered. I always thought he was murdered. I don't know why. I just thought that. But I don't know. I'm starting to believe Charlie Gasparino, who did the last interview with him, who said that Epstein was at a point where we realized he wasn't going to get out of this he wasn't going to beat it he was

going to go to prison and he couldn't face not being the guy he was with the mansion the parties

the jets the whole he just couldn't face life without it so who knows who knows we'll uh we'll

eventually well i was going to say we'll eventually get the end, but I don't know, we're still,

we've got the Kennedy files, we still don't know anything.

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