now back to mark simone on w o r hey let's take some calls let's go to uh randall in maryland randall how

you doing hi mark we're remembering robert de wahl um do you remember him being in the movie

the steve mclean movie bullet no i forgot Bullitt. He was. He had a bit part as a cab driver when McQueen was meeting some informant on the streets of San Francisco. Oh, interesting. I've got to go back and look at that. You know, of course, he was in To Kill a Mockingbird. He didn't have a speaking part, but he was the scary-looking

boo Radley behind the door there. I think that was actually his first appearance on the screen.

Let's go to Mike in Florida. Mike, how you doing?

Good morning, Mark.

Yes, Mike.

This Epstein story is fascinating. The fact that all of these people like Chapel Rhone, who shows up naked to every

award show, is outraged by Wasserman's association with him, is quite credible. And I think people

lose track in the fact that many of these relationships, even you spoke about Jackson and Trumpian

friends, they're transactional at that level. You know, it's like they know millions and millions of people, these folks. And, you know, if you know a guy, hey, I can get

your room. You don't have to go to a hotel. You can stay in my apartment building. You know,

it's, they do that. You know, even people who are multi, multi millionaires, you know,

if they can get something for nothing, or if they, it's how people fell for made off. You know, I mean, you know, it's all interconnected. And as I said, it's very transactional these relationships, you know, beyond this sexual stuff. I mean, once they knew he was a pedophile, okay, maybe you should have stopped me and friends with him. Yeah. But up until then. Well, that's a good point. You know know there were a lot of guys who were fixers and

most of them were very fine legitimate nice people uh and they were charming and they were fun i mean

when i say fixer if you needed to meet a top CEO they'd introduce you to take you to dinner with

them if you needed to get your kid into harvard they could pick up the phone and get it done. If you needed special something from a hospital, they could get it. I mean,

they could do whatever you needed, and they were very good at it. And they, again, we're very

legitimate, nice, fine people. But Epstein got into that business, but he added into it, women,

all kinds of stuff.

But most of the great fictions were also charming guys.

You'd just love to be around him.

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