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The Life Scientific

Mark Spencer on how plants solve crimes

The Life Scientific

BBC

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Science

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Inside the mind of a forensic botanist, Mark Spencer tells Jim Al-Khalili how he uses plant evidence to help solve crimes. By studying the vegetation at crime scenes, Mark can tell how long a dead body has been laying in the ground. Brambles can be particularly informative, he says. And by looking at tiny traces of plants under the microscope, he can link suspects to victims, or particular locations. Mark tells Jim Al-Khalili how he came to be a forensic botanist. After working in bars and clubs in Soho for many years, he decided to study for a degree in botany and developed a special interest in water moulds. As a curator of the botanical collections at the Natural History Museum in London, he became intimately acquainted with British flora past and present. And, more recently, has spent a lot of time monitoring urban wildlife – recording how the composition of native species and non-native species in the capital is changing, as the global climate changes and the global trade in plants continues. Producer: Anna Buckley

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0:31.2

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0:41.2

Hello, today I'll be getting inside the mind of a forensic botanist.

0:46.3

Mark Spencer uses plants to solve crimes.

0:49.8

Studying the vegetation at a crime scene can tell him how long a dead body has been laying there.

0:55.2

Brambles can be particularly informative, he says.

0:58.3

And by looking at tiny traces of plants under the microscope,

1:01.6

he can link suspects to victims or particular locations.

1:06.1

Mark has not had a linear career.

1:08.8

He worked in bars and clubs and so-ho and was heavily involved in AIDS activism in the early

1:13.7

90s, before he decided in his late 20s to study for a degree in botany.

1:19.3

He has a special interest in water molds.

1:22.0

He's also spent a lot of time monitoring urban wildlife,

1:25.7

recording how the composition of both native and non-native plant species in London

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