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It's Monday's 10 to the top.

Mark here for Vernon,

and Steffie Lambert is in Brunchley in Kent.

Hello, Steffie.

Hello, Mark.

What do we find you up to today?

Today I'm up to London this afternoon,

having just been for a lovely run in the orchards with my dog.

Oh, very good. What's your dog? A little Russian toy terrier. Okay, you're saying little, how little?

The mini pincher size. And a good running companion. A very good one, a little bit faster than me. Oh, well, that's a good. A bit of a pacer then, right? And I'm asking this question because I am really very, very impressed. You've run a couple of ultramarathans. I have in the past. Long time ago, now it's a bit more of fun outing and a bit more gentle. Yeah, well, that's probably all right, too. I did some fairly long runs back in the day, marathons and a bit more. But I don't think my knees would take it anymore. No, that is the problem, the old knees, and it's a bit better not having the competitive side go a bit slower. However, you have started taking up golf recently. Why are you doing that?

I'm loving it. I've always wanted to, and I'm now at the age. I think 40's a good age to

start picking up the golf clubs. And I've got my nephew into it, which is lovely. Very good.

And my niece does take the occasional shot, so it's great. How long have you been taking

these lessons then? Are you getting good now? Oh, very, no, no, no, six months, but we're getting there. Okay. Practice makes perfect. Well, one day. And when you play along with 10 to the top, what are you doing scorewise, Steffie? Never ever, anywhere near close to a 65. And if I get one, I'm happy.

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