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Here comes Mr. Thrill Ride himself, Eric Mat, Texas.

Oh, hello, I didn't see you come in.

Folks, I got to tell you, I'm pretty excited about talking to Mark Shaw.

He's been on the program.

He's written a book called Fighting for Justice, The Improbable Journey to Exposing Cover-Uups about the JFK assassination and the deaths of Marilyn Monroe

and Dorothy Kilgallan. Absolutely thrilled to have you, Mark Shaw. Welcome to this program.

Thanks so much, Eric. Appreciate it. Now, for folks who don't know anything about you, how did you get into this?

Because anybody who's been alive in our lifetimes know that there's been tremendous controversy and confusion around certainly the death of President Kennedy, the death of Marilyn Monroe.

And many people haven't even heard of Dorothy Kilgallon.

What brought you, what is your background that brought you to investigate these things as you

have done over the years?

Well, you ask about the, you know, how I got into all of this.

And I have no idea in some ways, Eric.

When President Kennedy was killed 60 years ago, you know, nearly 60 years ago or a little bit more, you know, I like everybody else.

I cried my ears out.

I was at Purdue University as a freshman.

And yet over the years then, I bought all this material about Jay Edgar Hoover saying Oswald

alone, Oswald alone, all of that and everything else.

And then I had a real break with this because I knew Melvin Belli, who represented Jack

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