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On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Mark Rober: Feeling Stuck in a Rut? Use THIS Simple 3- Step Method Engineers Use to FINALLY Turn Your Ideas Into Reality!

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

iHeartPodcasts

Health & Fitness, Business, Mental Health

4.828.5K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

What idea have you been sitting on lately?

What’s been holding you back from starting?

Today, Jay sits down with engineer, innovator, and YouTube creator Mark Rober to explore the unexpected life experiences that shaped one of the internet’s most beloved minds. Mark shares the childhood moments that ignited his passion for building, breaking, and understanding how the world works, moments nurtured by a mother whose love, imagination, and encouragement helped lay the foundation for his life’s mission. He reflects on how her influence continues to ripple outward, inspiring millions of young people who learn, explore, and dream through his work today.

Jay and Mark explore the mindset that carried Mark from NASA engineer to innovative educator, unpacking what it really means to “think like an engineer:” experiment boldly, embrace failure, and treat every setback as an opportunity to learn. They follow Mark’s unusual pivots, from designing Mars rover hardware to crafting Halloween costumes, to ultimately shaping a career that blends curiosity, storytelling, science, and play. Together they reveal the deeper lessons behind Mark’s most viral experiments: why creativity thrives when we stay childlike, how passion reveals itself through repetition, and why the most meaningful work grows from genuine excitement rather than algorithms or expectations.

In this interview, you'll learn:

How to Think Like an Engineer

How to Stay Curious as an Adult

How to Follow Your Passion Practically

How to Build Ideas That Actually Work

How to Find Creativity in Everyday Life

How to Recognize Your Real Calling

How to Inspire Others Through Your Work

Keep following the questions that excite you, keep trying the things that scare you, and keep believing that you’re capable of far more than you realize. Your next breakthrough might be just one experiment, or one brave attempt away.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:16 Were You Always Creative?

04:02 Understanding the Real Impact of Your Life

06:55 What It Really Takes to Work at NASA

09:49 Learning to Think Like an Engineer

11:22 How Rovers Are Tested for Mars

12:20 Searching for Life Beyond Earth

13:24 Follow What You Truly Love Doing

16:11 If You Can Imagine It, You Can Build It

17:22 Practical Wisdom from a Lifelong Tinkerer

20:57 The Pivot from NASA to Apple

23:34 Turning Ideas into Actionable Success

24:45 What is the Engineering Design Process?

28:28 Why Embracing Failure Matters

29:57 Relearning Trust and Finding Love Again

34:56 The Power of Immersion Weekends

36:45 Making Learning Engaging Through Creativity

40:29 Why Mastery Is Worth Pursuing

41:40 Balancing Business with True Creativity

44:51 How Communication Shapes Great Storytelling

47:40 Two Common Mistakes Creators Make

52:30 Staying True to Your Creative Style

54:04 The Importance of Focusing on One Passion

56:44 The Hidden Failures Behind Viral Success

59:35 Giving Kids Room to Be Creative

01:04:30 Curiosity as the Root of Creativity

01:06:07 Inside a Real Creative Process

01:08:45 Where Do You Get Your Big Ideas?

01:11:46 The Mind-Bending Question of Life in the Universe

01:16:02 The Promise and Peril of Rapid AI Growth

01:19:56 Focusing on What You Can Truly Influence 

01:24:57 Mark on Final Five

Episode Resources:

Mark Rober | X

Mark Rober | Instagram

Mark Rober | Facebook

Mark Rober | LinkedIn

Mark Rober | TikTok

Mark Rober | YouTube

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:04.1

If you're not breaking stuff, it means like you're not really testing the limits.

0:07.9

And then when you fail, you don't internalize it like, oh, I'm a failure.

0:11.3

It's like, oh, great.

0:12.7

We just learned one more way not to do a thing.

0:16.4

Hey, everyone.

0:17.3

Welcome back to On Purpose, the place you come to become a happier, healthier, and more healed. My guest today is Mark Roba, engineer, YouTuber, and one of the most

0:27.2

creative minds online whose experiments and inventions have inspired millions to fall in love

0:33.2

with science and curiosity again. In this episode, we explore how to stay creative, turn failure into

0:39.4

fuel, and reconnect with the sense of wonder we often lose as adults. Please welcome to on-purpose,

0:46.4

Mark Rober. Mark, it is great to have you here. Congratulations on your incredible success.

0:52.1

Thank you. And I'm excited to dive into your mind. So good to be here. Let's do it. Are you going to make me cry, Jay? Are you a crier? I can't get emotional. I'm the crier in my relationship. Are you the crier in your relationship? I am. Well, we both kind of cry. How long have you been together now? Yeah, over a year. Over a year. Yeah, but that feels like relationship-wise, it happened fast. I mean, as an adult, you know what you want, right? And so it feels like seven years and dog years relationships. It's been seven years for the one. I love it, I love it. Well, if you're allowed to cry here, definitely, but no, no pressure.

1:27.9

No, we don't want any acting tears.

1:30.1

I'm a terrible actor, so you're in luck.

1:32.5

I love it. I want to start off just by like, the first question I have for you is, what's

1:36.9

the earliest childhood memory you have that you feel defines who you are today? Is there a moment,

1:43.0

a friend, an experience from school growing up that

1:46.3

you're like, that is why I am the way I am? I think it's a defining moment, one that sticks out,

1:56.0

I feel like. So my mom was out of the gate. You're kidding me talking about my mom.

2:04.5

My mom was like had the biggest influence on my life by a very comfortable margin. And she was

2:10.1

like a stay at home mom. Like she barely graduated high school. But she was just so encouraging of us and like trying to turn us into like good

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