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Welcome to Special Edition of 32 Thoughts, the podcast, 32 Thoughts, the interview presented

by the all-new GMCAT4 lineup, Jeff Merrick alongside Elliott Friedman, and our interview

today, Elliott, is with someone who really doesn't need much of an introduction.

He's kind of done pretty much all of it in hockey, and I can't remember, I can't think

of anyone whose name is more synonymous with winning than Mark Messier, and he's a

fascinating guy.

He's played in a lot of really intriguing places, whether it's the dynasty team with the

Euler's, and then what he did with the New York Rangers.

But even going back to his time with the WHO, with Indianapolis, and the Cincinnati Stingers,

and growing up in a hockey family, his dad was a hockey player.

We get into a conversation about the Portland Bucker Ruse and the old Western hockey loop.

When you hear his name, or you see him on TV, whether it's doing a hockey analyst's studio

work, or whether it's doing ads for Tide, what do you think of Mark Messier?

When we first started with the deal at Rogers, Messier had an endorsement deal with the

company.

He was one of the official sponsors, and he would come in from time to time to be part

of the broadcast, and what I actually noticed was just sitting and listening to him, and

just break down the game.

He doesn't talk a lot, he would make a quiet observation, and I would sit there, and I

would think, holy smokes, this is brilliant.

One of the things I've really learned over the years, Jeff, is how people who really

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