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All In with Chris Hayes

Mark Meadows takes the stand in Georgia hearing

All In with Chris Hayes

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4.55.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Guests: Katie Phang, Shan Wu, Mary McCord, Tim Miller, Julie Chavez Rodriguez Mark Meadows takes the stand in his bid to move his Georgia trial to federal court. Plus, how today's decision by a D.C. judge could affect Trump’s bid to get back in the White House—and out of prison. Then, they say want to "Make America Great Again,” so why are the Republican candidates offering up such a bleak message for the future? President Biden's 2024 campaign manager Julie Chavez Rodriguez joins live to discuss.

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0:00.0

Good evening from Washington. I'm Jen Psaki and for Chris Hayes.

0:07.6

Tonight, we have some major developments in two of Donald Trump's criminal trials.

0:12.1

First in Washington, D.C., today, a federal judge set the ex-presidents trial date

0:16.2

for March 4th of next year, which also happens to be the day before Super Tuesday.

0:22.6

That means, on the eve of the most important day in the primary, Donald Trump will not be

0:27.4

crisscrossing the country and wooing voters with MAGA rallies.

0:30.4

Instead, he will be sitting in a federal courthouse, on trial for federal charges,

0:36.0

while Republican voters decide if this is the man they want to nominate.

0:40.9

We'll have more on the federal case in just a little bit, including all of the politics and what

0:45.2

it means. But there was another major legal development involving the ex-president today as well,

0:50.3

big legal day. We got some big news out of Georgia this afternoon involving Trump's White House

0:55.2

chief of staff, Mark Meadows. Now, we all know Meadows, in his position as Trump's right-hand man,

1:00.5

was integral in facilitating the attempted coup. His own top aid told the January 6th committee

1:06.4

as much, including Meadows' apparent role in the plan for Trump to lead his followers to the

1:11.5

Capitol for the insurrection itself. On January 3rd, Mr. Cipolloni had approached me, knowing that

1:18.5

Mark had raised the prospect of going up to the Capitol on January 6th. Mr. Cipolloni and I had

1:25.6

a brief private conversation where he said to me, we need to make sure that this doesn't happen.

1:33.6

This would be a legally terrible idea for us. We have serious legal concerns if we go up to the

1:41.6

Capitol that day. And he then urged me to continue relaying that to Mr. Meadows because it's my

1:50.8

understanding that Mr. Cipolloni thought that Mr. Meadows was indeed pushing this along with the

1:56.6

president. Remember how eye-popping that testimony was? So when the January 6th committee initially

2:03.4

caught kicked off its investigation, Mark Meadows complied. He handed over more than 6,000 pages of

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