Mr. New York.

Mark Simone on W.O.R.

Well, as I've explained, those public polls that you see in the news, the college polls, the media

polls, they don't mean anything.

They're a couple thousand bucks.

They're cheap.

They're flimsy.

Very few people surveyed.

It's not likely voters.

They use the wrong demo.

So it forces the campaigns to spend a fortune for real polls, deadly accurate, real polls.

The best pollster in the world is John McLaughlin, and he's on the line right now.

He's got a website.

You can go see his website, McLaughlin Online.com.

John McLaughlin, how you doing?

I'm doing well because Donald Trump's doing well,

so except for the fact that he keeps getting indicted, which I told him that the only crime you're committed is you're ahead of Joe Biden in the polls. Yeah, now you've done polls for all

the major figures, and Donald Trump included and leaders all around the world.

Let's start with.

Trump versus DeSantis, where does that stand in real numbers?

In real numbers?

I mean, the national poll we put up, Trump is winning with 51% of the vote this month, and we actually, is, is, it was right before the Wednesday debate, we had Vivek. We had Vivik Ramosami at 13, and we had DeSantis at 9. Wow. And the other candidates at 4 or less. And, and one-on-one, Trump was beaten DeSanis, 72 to 28. Now, You think in January, yeah, right, there's no one that's hot.

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