Well, Miranda Devine is one of our top, top columnists and journalists and a heroic figure.

She is Woodward and Bernstein times 100.

You've got to get her, if you haven't read it yet, it's a huge bestseller.

It's the book on Hunter Biden and the laptop.

It's called Laptop from Hell.

Make sure you get it.

Miranda Devine, how you doing?

Hi, Mark.

Great to be with you.

Yeah, so,

now what do you think of Joe the past week?

He doesn't know anything about this laptop.

He's never been involved in Hunter's business,

doesn't know anything about it.

You've got to admire his nerve for saying these things, don't you?

I mean, it's actually, it's swifts far, but it's actually self-defeating, ultimately.

He's sort of gotten away with that all his life.

He's just brazenly live.

No other nice way of saying it.

And because he does it so confidently and without any tell-tale signs that normally you

get when people aren't telling the truth, people sort of have given him the benefit of doubt.

But now he's the president.

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