The Mark Simone Show.

On 710 W-O-R.

Well, Joe Concha, of course, the great media columnist for The Hill, the Fox News Channel, Fox Business,

and author of this great new book.

It's a great book on Joe Biden.

It's called Come on, Man, and you should go get Joe Concha's new book.

Joe Concha, how you doing?

Outstanding, Mark. How are you doing, man? Very good. What do you think? Tonight, 9 o'clock, the whole establishment against Donald Trump, who do you bet on to win this battle? Wow. Well, that depends on how you define establishment, I guess, Mark. So I don't know if I consider Ron DeSantis the establishment,

because the way he runs Florida is kind of the way Trump ran the country.

Same attitude with the media, same attack on cancel culture,

Walt culture going after Disney and so on.

Obviously, that parental rights bill that he passed, which everybody called the don't

say gay bill, even though it didn't have gay anywhere in it. I thought that was tremendous.

One of the lowest unemployment rates in the country, sending migrants to Martha's Vineyard,

a very Trumpian thing to do. So I think Trump beats the establishment if he runs. I don't know

if he beats DeSantis if he runs, because I don't know if you could paint DeSantis as establishment because he's just a governor in Florida, not a swamp creature in D.C. Does that make sense? Well, you bring up a good point. Two minutes ago, all the Democrats hated DeSantis. He was the most extreme right-wing guy. No vaccine, no mask, no this, no that. You're right. Sending migrants, he was the worst. Now they love him. Same thing with Mike Pence, who was the biggest election denier, January 6th instigator. We have the video up on the web page. You can see it for yourself. Now he's a hero. He's a hero whose life was in danger. Well, I don't know if the media loves DeSantis. I mean, you've seen the way they've been talking about him. I mean, MSNBC called him a white Christian nationalist. I don't even know what that is, you know. And then you've got the people on CNN saying that he'll be worse than Trump. So I don't know. I don't know if DeSantis is being embraced by Democrats too much. I've seen it in places. I'm not saying you're wrong. But at the same time, this will be very interesting if it comes down to those two or even if Glenn Yonkin runs because he's done a great job in Virginia. I don't think that this will be 2016 all over again where Trump can just insult somebody with a nickname and then that dismiss dismisses that guy but at the same time

he's the guy who got 74 million votes in 2020 and he's the guy who without him we wouldn't

be talking about the border or immigration or energy independence ISIS wouldn't have been

crushed regulations wouldn't have been squashed and we wouldn't have had a guy who has really

exposed the media for what it is and the swamp for

what it is. So Trump still has all those things going for him. The question is, does he have

the discipline to stick the issues and not so much make it about a name-calling contest?

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