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Good morning, Mark. Thank you.

Would you give DeSantis credit for having a lot of nerve?

I mean, suffers the most brutal defeat ever on Iowa, 30 points behind, and acts like he got his ticket punched.

Everything's great.

Well, look, it is an interesting situation

that he and Haley came in so close to each other,

and I tend to agree that he, you know,

remains alive, barely, but I think New Hampshire is going to be a very difficult sledding, and then after that, South Carolina.

So I'm not sure, I mean, yes, he got enough to get out of Iowa. He didn't get single digits or anything like that.

He certainly didn't get bang for the bucks that he spent and his Super PAC spent.

I mean, it was amazing.

I think he was at 16% in the polls last August and ends up with, what, 19% or 20% or 21% whatever it turns out to be.

So it's hardly a win for him.

And I don't see how he big, what state is he going to win?

Where's the first state where he's going to win?

And I think in the meantime,

he certainly makes it hard for Haley to be an alternative for Trump. So I think together they are helping Trump. Certainly in New Hampshire, they will help Trump win, it looks like.

Yeah. So the Biden, Democrats, media, they've all started this mega extremist threat to democracy.

Is that so ridiculously hyperbolic that it's not going to work?

I tend to think it is.

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